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Re: Caboose or no Caboose

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:05 pm
by Gloriousnse
Some of the ones i've seen images of used a heavyweight combine as a caboose, if that helps?

Examples:
http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=92371
http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=11445

Those are both N&W - but the same method was used elsewhere also, I know of Santa Fe and SP&S (and even BN!) using combines similarly.

Re: Caboose or no Caboose

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:32 pm
by BrianMoore
I run a mixed train on my SP 1954-era layout, based on a prototype that eludes me at the moment, but I only have a combine alone at the end of the train, and not also a caboose, as the combine has the office for the conductor to do his paperwork and keep all the stuff that a caboose would do on a freight train. It doesn't make sense to have both. On UP mixed trains of that era too, I again believe that only a combine on its own was used.

If the train was solely a passenger train, there would already be an office compartment/space for the conductor to keep his orders and equipment. Unless you can find specific proof for the railroad you are modelling, I'd suggest not using a caboose too, unless you see pictures etc.

Re: Caboose or no Caboose

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:04 pm
by santafe1958
The Santa Fe 'usually' had a Combine on the rear of a mixed service, until passenger services ceased, and then a Waycar (caboose) was on the rear. I'll say 'usually' as the only photos I've seen are like this.

Brian

Re: Caboose or no Caboose

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:32 pm
by Gloriousnse
The only exception I can think of coming across (which is not to say that no other variations exist!) is i've read articles where the advertised passenger accomodation turned out be be a seat in the caboose - but in modelling terms that would look just like a freight train so probably not a lot of help!

Re: Caboose or no Caboose

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:02 pm
by BrianMoore
Gloriousnse wrote:The only exception I can think of coming across (which is not to say that no other variations exist!) is i've read articles where the advertised passenger accomodation turned out be be a seat in the caboose - but in modelling terms that would look just like a freight train so probably not a lot of help!
In that case, the passenger car would have been removed, and that's where the conductor would probably previously have been based!